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reagan and i knew ronald reagan. i mean, you know, it's absolutely crazy. today we're going to have an nfl football game. can you imagine the opposing team giving the other team the playbook? i mean, he doesn't have that many plays in the book to begin with and now here your advisers are, in essence, giving the obama administration -- giving the obama debate team the play that they are going to run as if this president isn't going to be prepared to counter anything. i don't know what kind of campaign they are running and the last thing i would do is publicize my strategy in the first debate. >> i think you're right. >> the only thing i think more alarming about publishing your strategy before the debate is that they are going at what has been a weak point of mr. romney. i mean, just this week he's had to defend himself against accusation that he's been fast and loose with facts. look at this. >> we've been absolutely spot on and any time there's been anything amiss, we correct it or remove it. >> so the fact that the
reagan and i knew ronald reagan. i mean, you know, it's absolutely crazy. today we're going to have an nfl football game. can you imagine the opposing team giving the other team the playbook? i mean, he doesn't have that many plays in the book to begin with and now here your advisers are, in essence, giving the obama administration -- giving the obama debate team the play that they are going to run as if this president isn't going to be prepared to counter anything. i don't know what kind of...
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ronald reagan did that, bill clinton did it. but this idea that we can't do it and certainly when pundits say further candidate should even touch it tomorrow night, that gets to the core of the problem. >>guest: that is exactly correct. this is the issue. all the issues that we are talking about in the economy are encompassed inside the national debt argument. you can get rid of the unfunded liabilities, as well, just the way we did with social security under ronald reagan by tending the age of retirement, by reducing benefits, by subjecting half of them to the income tax. there are lots of things you can do to bring this economy back and fairly quickly in two terms you could bring it back the way reagan did. >>neil: the fact is you cannot buy your way out it. you have to boom your way out of it. thank you, art. >> in washington, dc, talk of a plan to keep the government from going off an immediate fiscal cliff because if nothing is done, tax bill per household could jump an average of $3,500. now to washington, dc, with latest
ronald reagan did that, bill clinton did it. but this idea that we can't do it and certainly when pundits say further candidate should even touch it tomorrow night, that gets to the core of the problem. >>guest: that is exactly correct. this is the issue. all the issues that we are talking about in the economy are encompassed inside the national debt argument. you can get rid of the unfunded liabilities, as well, just the way we did with social security under ronald reagan by tending the...
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. >> it's an update of the ronald reagan welfare mean, same racialized politics mitt romney has been playing for the last eight, ten months. this is the -- the welfare requirement, the idea the president is abolishing it, he is taking a gop prescription for reforming welfare and putting it in place, which is giving more power to the states. you know, the details of that, the fact that tons of things the president has embraced are actually rooted in conservative ideology has been a completely lost or disavowed by the republican party. i mean, they -- mitt romney has to win 60% of white voters and will stop at nothing to shore up every white vote he can. and that includes playing to the lowest card in the deck, which is incredibly racially charged, incendiary rhetoric designed to stoke hatred and fulmen, i guess, enthusiasm to get folks out to the polls. >> gene, look at this. every time i see this, i see it infrequently, i cry. i've been accused of being too emotional about politics. four years ago, john mccain stood up to a supporter who called then-senator obama an arab. here's his
. >> it's an update of the ronald reagan welfare mean, same racialized politics mitt romney has been playing for the last eight, ten months. this is the -- the welfare requirement, the idea the president is abolishing it, he is taking a gop prescription for reforming welfare and putting it in place, which is giving more power to the states. you know, the details of that, the fact that tons of things the president has embraced are actually rooted in conservative ideology has been a...
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ronald reagan, they said he didn't pay attention to details. he had the big things right. now that we have gone back, read diaries and letters, we know he did a lot of that work himself, didn't delegate to staff. it was the big ideas. he let staff handle the details. also, you have to be able to manage people. to some extent one of the criticisms i have of president obama is that he has turned too much over to other people and doesn't work well with congress. you need to work well together. >> let me ask you about the relationship with senator mccain. i asked it of senator hutchinson. is it a blessing or curse to have the president or nominee be from your home state. >> john and i represent the same constituency, he will be elected to senate, i will be gone before he will. he is my colleague this entire time. larger than life in many respects. that has its plus and minuses, he is playing the national issues, i am doing a lot of things that relate to the state. he is very good when he focuses on a state issue. he can be effective working on a state issue as well. we have be
ronald reagan, they said he didn't pay attention to details. he had the big things right. now that we have gone back, read diaries and letters, we know he did a lot of that work himself, didn't delegate to staff. it was the big ideas. he let staff handle the details. also, you have to be able to manage people. to some extent one of the criticisms i have of president obama is that he has turned too much over to other people and doesn't work well with congress. you need to work well together....
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ronald reagan said no to war with the soviet union. ronald reagan actually said yes to reducing the number of nuclear weapons in both sides arsenal's. ronald reagan was a figure almost more comfortable in barack obama's democratic party and his wing -- >> don't say that too loudly. >> check your twitter feed. >> just exploded. >> we have to take a break but we are waiting for the president to speak at the clinton global initiative. meanwhile, president obama and governor romney also spoke at nbc's education nation summit. big times. we will discuss their remarks. also paul ryan weighs in on the last night's nfl controversy and brings it back to, guess who, president obama. all of that is next on "now." want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well
ronald reagan said no to war with the soviet union. ronald reagan actually said yes to reducing the number of nuclear weapons in both sides arsenal's. ronald reagan was a figure almost more comfortable in barack obama's democratic party and his wing -- >> don't say that too loudly. >> check your twitter feed. >> just exploded. >> we have to take a break but we are waiting for the president to speak at the clinton global initiative. meanwhile, president obama and governor...
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i ink the other interesting comparison to ronald reagan is there's two ronald reagans. there was the ronald reagan who worked with democrats, who made tax reform a priority will you also raised taxes, who signed the deral law that ruire orpleny iat the e.r. ronald reagan worked across the aisle on a lot of things and then there's the ronald reagan we hear about only in the gop primary debates, a conserve ty ideologue at every turn. if you talk about the first reagan, obama has tried to follow that path, but he's had less cooperation on offer from the congress. he didn't -- >> chris, can i make t points s.nan k-- that reagan ended his first term with a higher misery index than obama currently has. reagan's recessionas also a fairly induced recession in order to wring inflation out of the economy, a it happenednd beon w. obama inherited a financial collapse recession which of their nature lasts longer, and it happened before he got there. thinthatelpslahe er. if you look at the gallup poll of approval of reagan and obama, you will see they're the closest of any two presid
i ink the other interesting comparison to ronald reagan is there's two ronald reagans. there was the ronald reagan who worked with democrats, who made tax reform a priority will you also raised taxes, who signed the deral law that ruire orpleny iat the e.r. ronald reagan worked across the aisle on a lot of things and then there's the ronald reagan we hear about only in the gop primary debates, a conserve ty ideologue at every turn. if you talk about the first reagan, obama has tried to follow...
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that ronald reagan moment. that, you know, quip no one was anticipating that seems to sort of, you know, grab the public attention. it can be for good or ill. for both of the candidates the challenge is really to be relaxed enough to get the message across in a way but not so loose you trip over your tongue and cause yourself harm. candidly it's mitt romney who has had the problem in the appearances lately. in that regard, i think if he makes it through without doing anything like that, that alope puts him in game. >> bret: one thing you watch is the dynamic between the two. what is not spoken. just body language, kind of the interaction. what do r you looking for in the first 30 minutes let's say? >> we have never seen them together on a stage. they met once or twice before. it will be interesting to see how it plays out. we can think of one debate where the body language between the two candidates made a difference. bush versus gore, gore acted supercilious and condescending toward governor bush. it played ba
that ronald reagan moment. that, you know, quip no one was anticipating that seems to sort of, you know, grab the public attention. it can be for good or ill. for both of the candidates the challenge is really to be relaxed enough to get the message across in a way but not so loose you trip over your tongue and cause yourself harm. candidly it's mitt romney who has had the problem in the appearances lately. in that regard, i think if he makes it through without doing anything like that, that...
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who th >> ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan. >> number one. >> who did they put number two? >> i'm going have to cheat. bill clinton. isn't that interestg. >> number three. franklin roosevelt. so as far as barack obama, by e way, barack obama scored mid len thpo inst i mean maybe not for people today because he obviously is very popular cerinly with democrats, but for historians to choose a living president. >> they chose him as number ten of the20. e list just below ronald reagan. but it is interesting. the popular people put him in the middle of achievements. it was one of the top ten in the country, so they excludedeorge w. bush. toyeg they excluded george herbert walker bush who i personally thing they deserved more credit than they got. the popular vote excluded woodrow wilson. woodrow wson charted arican hiy t nea >> what do you make of the breakdown if you look at the list that's used democratic. out of ten, only three are republicans. >> yeah. i mean the people, four were republicans, but wi biand large you have toook at who the puican a yo a g warren harding who was
who th >> ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan. >> number one. >> who did they put number two? >> i'm going have to cheat. bill clinton. isn't that interestg. >> number three. franklin roosevelt. so as far as barack obama, by e way, barack obama scored mid len thpo inst i mean maybe not for people today because he obviously is very popular cerinly with democrats, but for historians to choose a living president. >> they chose him as number ten of the20. e...
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i voted for ronald reagan in 1980. i do have a disclaimer. i was drunk that day. but he made -- you know, ronald reagan, one thing he did was he made people distrust their government. and really a lot of people hate their government. because of -- >> now, mud cat, let me ask you a question. let me ask you a question. i didn't want to cut you off. but i have to get to you because i don't want to run out of time on you and steve. i've been waiting all day because i knew you were coming on. i've looked at the polls and i understand group after group the president's establishing a commanding lead. latinos up 45 points. he leads women by 19 points. catholics by 15 points. all of them i could understand given the policy positions of this campaign. but here's one that is right down your alley to explain to me. romney is losing the nascar base, the nascar base. obama leads romney 49-42 among nascar enthusiasts, according to the new zogby poll. can you explain that? >> because thurston howell doesn't drive a car. it's that simple. nascar is a down home sport. elitism is no
i voted for ronald reagan in 1980. i do have a disclaimer. i was drunk that day. but he made -- you know, ronald reagan, one thing he did was he made people distrust their government. and really a lot of people hate their government. because of -- >> now, mud cat, let me ask you a question. let me ask you a question. i didn't want to cut you off. but i have to get to you because i don't want to run out of time on you and steve. i've been waiting all day because i knew you were coming on....
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the tagline is, re-elect ronald reagan. i said, are you kidding me that? that is blatant, blatant and good. you may think it's corny, but let's face it, you think everything's corny, okay, but if you can get an image like that it really matters. >> ed rollins was reagan's campaign manager. >> two kinds of monitoring you make in a campaign. one is an intellectual argument and one is an emotional argument. >> when beckle ran mondale's campaign, he saw this ad. >> where's the beef? >> wendy's was trying to convince people their hamburgers had more beef. >> where's the beef? >> you were home watching tv with your girlfriend and saw this ad. >> yeah. i saw the ad. my girlfriend said to me, that reminds me of gary hart. what's he all about? all of a sudden, it clicked. >> this is not polling, just a comment from a girlfriend. >> that's right. >> you probably liked her too much. >> no, no. i didn't actually. that triggered in my mind something that made some sense, we could put on the next poll. we put it on a poll, it tested well. >> so mondale used it in a deba
the tagline is, re-elect ronald reagan. i said, are you kidding me that? that is blatant, blatant and good. you may think it's corny, but let's face it, you think everything's corny, okay, but if you can get an image like that it really matters. >> ed rollins was reagan's campaign manager. >> two kinds of monitoring you make in a campaign. one is an intellectual argument and one is an emotional argument. >> when beckle ran mondale's campaign, he saw this ad. >> where's...
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. >> bill: in next weeks debate, can romney do what ronald reagan did to jimmy carter? megyn kelly has some thoughts. >> bill: caution the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. the likeability factor. that the subject of talking points memo. there two are kinds of voters in america those that know the issues and those that don't. emotion drives a decision and part of that equation is likeability. many people think reagan defeated carter because he came across likable while carter was distant and same thing with bill clinton and younger clinton showed more personality. bush the younger remained personally popular until the recession kicked in. right now in a popularity poll, president obama is ahead of mitt romney by throw three-points according to a new survey. after next week's debate it could change dramatically. there is no question about obama and romney realize they must come across as nice guys that is why they go on entertainment programs. >> we're is very happy you came on this a mrs. obama and brought your date? >> i brought him. he had a few
. >> bill: in next weeks debate, can romney do what ronald reagan did to jimmy carter? megyn kelly has some thoughts. >> bill: caution the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. the likeability factor. that the subject of talking points memo. there two are kinds of voters in america those that know the issues and those that don't. emotion drives a decision and part of that equation is likeability. many people think reagan defeated carter because he came...
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the tagline is, re-elect ronald reagan. i said, are you kidding me that? that is blatant, blatant and good. you may think it's corny, but let's face it, you think everything's corny, okay, but if you can get an image like that it really matters. >> ed rollins was reagan's campaign manager. >> two kinds of monitoring you make in a campaign. one is an intellectual argument and one is an emotional argument. >> when beckle ran mondale's campaign, he saw this ad. >> where's the beef? >> wendy's was trying to convince people their hamburgers had more beef. >> where's the beef? >> you were home watching tv with your girlfriend and saw this ad. >> yeah. i saw the ad. my girlfriend said to me, that reminds me of gary hart. what's he all about? all of a sudden, it clicked. >> this is not polling, just a comment from a girlfriend. >> that's right. >> you probably liked her too much. >> no, no. i didn't actually. that triggered in my mind something that made some sense, we could put on the next poll. we put it on a poll, it tested well. >> so mondale used it in a deba
the tagline is, re-elect ronald reagan. i said, are you kidding me that? that is blatant, blatant and good. you may think it's corny, but let's face it, you think everything's corny, okay, but if you can get an image like that it really matters. >> ed rollins was reagan's campaign manager. >> two kinds of monitoring you make in a campaign. one is an intellectual argument and one is an emotional argument. >> when beckle ran mondale's campaign, he saw this ad. >> where's...
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it did not help when ronald reagan --eagamicsas presumed to create a lot of wealth for the middle class? no. the median wage began to stagnate. trickle down economics is a complete fraud. >> to professor reich's point, he says he thinks that perception is getting thrgh to thelectate. "washingtopost w tio nehese live and they interviewed voters there, and the thing that kept coming up for voters is romney is for th millionaires. people are getting that message. they're understanding at a basic level what the professors saying there. the thinghat's so strange to , wead ts d ie coy,e had this idea, we'll have unrestrained capitalism, which generally leads to these sorts of concentrations of wealth that we've seen, but on the other hand we'll have bigger profits and wean better take care of the people who are lling behind. well, now that we have the ntcuttet net.capitalism, ty the ryan budget, 62% of the cuts from programs that benefit the poor. so you're having this huge accumulation of wealth and then you're cutting the bottom out from under from the people who are really struggling. >> a
it did not help when ronald reagan --eagamicsas presumed to create a lot of wealth for the middle class? no. the median wage began to stagnate. trickle down economics is a complete fraud. >> to professor reich's point, he says he thinks that perception is getting thrgh to thelectate. "washingtopost w tio nehese live and they interviewed voters there, and the thing that kept coming up for voters is romney is for th millionaires. people are getting that message. they're understanding...
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art laffer, and a former adviser to former president ronald reagan. i thought you and milton friedman told me that the tax burden is in fact the rate of spending. why are these economists saying it is not true? >> who knows. you are right government spending is taxation. pure and simple. it doesn't recreate resources it takes them from one group and gives them to another. every time we have had massive government spending we have had a problem in the economy. it is true. in 2007, 2008 when the crash occurred those were the biggest periods of government spending increase. as you may have seen my piece on 34 countries, those that have the biggest spending plans have the biggest declines. and the same thing happened after world war ii as you know. we had massive spending cuts from 44 to 46. and the economy boomed as never before. >> so here is the thing. this is the national association of business economists. this is not the worker's socialist union. and look, these guys are coming out, they are coming out with two points that i have made on the show. t
art laffer, and a former adviser to former president ronald reagan. i thought you and milton friedman told me that the tax burden is in fact the rate of spending. why are these economists saying it is not true? >> who knows. you are right government spending is taxation. pure and simple. it doesn't recreate resources it takes them from one group and gives them to another. every time we have had massive government spending we have had a problem in the economy. it is true. in 2007, 2008...
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the big issue, big change began in 198 1980 that goes with the election of ronald reagan ronald reagan brought with them to washington a very underrated figure in a recent american history, somehow i don't think gets his due as an important person. that's edwin meese because edwin meese at first was in flash and then attorney general. said look, there has been a liberal agenda at the supreme court. there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand executive power and end racial preferences, speed up execution, welcome religion into the public sphere, and above all, reverse roe v. wade and allow states once again to ban abortion. a big part of the reagan revolution was the arrival of washington of a group of young and committed conservative lawyers who wanted to work in that, on behalf of that agenda, who were two of the best and the brightest of that group? john roberts and samuel alito. 1970 -- in 1985, a memo at the solicitor general's office, alito wrote what can be made of this opportunity to advance the goal of bringing about the eventual o
the big issue, big change began in 198 1980 that goes with the election of ronald reagan ronald reagan brought with them to washington a very underrated figure in a recent american history, somehow i don't think gets his due as an important person. that's edwin meese because edwin meese at first was in flash and then attorney general. said look, there has been a liberal agenda at the supreme court. there needs to be a conservative agenda at the supreme court. what was that agenda? expand...
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>> ronald reagan. >> you got it. >> ronald reagan, 1980. >> '84. >> that's right. i think you both get a sticker for that one. ronald reagan in 1984 and obviously, he was at the time 73. he was running against mondale who was 56. cleaned mondale's clock. age was not used against reagan. >>> parker is back. >> nothing but a number. >> nothing but a number. parker is back for the second one. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> jamaal. >> lloyd benson in the vice presidential debate and you remembered it was lloyd benson. good job. >> nerdland for a reason. >> what state, jamaal? >> he was from texas. >> does anybody remember what dan quayle said in response? >> he said that's uncalled for. >> that's exactly it. >> crawl under the podium. >> after the laughing subsided in the crowd. >> that was a pretty good one. >> i think that's my best. >> he's being polite. he's not hitting his bell until she is through. >> here's the next parker video. >> george bush taking credit for the berlin wall coming down is like t
>> ronald reagan. >> you got it. >> ronald reagan, 1980. >> '84. >> that's right. i think you both get a sticker for that one. ronald reagan in 1984 and obviously, he was at the time 73. he was running against mondale who was 56. cleaned mondale's clock. age was not used against reagan. >>> parker is back. >> nothing but a number. >> nothing but a number. parker is back for the second one. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend...
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and start talk about ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan at this point in his president, 8% growth -- >> we're not debating ronald reagan -- >> he hasn't fixed it and now we see economic growth -- we're heading towards a recession. >> jennifer: we're heading towards a recession. consumer confidence is at a seven-month high, the s&p 500 is up nearly 15% year to date. but this is what fox news does when the facts don't confirm with their version of reality, they call the data skewed. >> it's very strange that big unemployment number seems to be skewed. the department may be becoming a bit partisan. i state on air, and the left goes absolutely bonkers and call me a conspiracy theorist. >> jennifer: maybe that's because you are. if fox news hosts don't like reality, they just make up their own version of events. >> the romney campaign has sent a lot of time asking a question from 1980. are you better off than four years ago, when any damn fool knows that in 2008 this country was in crisis. why would you pick that year as your fourth-year comparison. >> jennifer: i love it. really? lou dobbs
and start talk about ronald reagan. >> ronald reagan at this point in his president, 8% growth -- >> we're not debating ronald reagan -- >> he hasn't fixed it and now we see economic growth -- we're heading towards a recession. >> jennifer: we're heading towards a recession. consumer confidence is at a seven-month high, the s&p 500 is up nearly 15% year to date. but this is what fox news does when the facts don't confirm with their version of reality, they call the...
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one of the points made, people love ronald reagan. right now they are not in love with mitt romney who needs to shore up his own support. things can change. with my father's campaign, it did not chart charging until the final weekend when we went from behind to searching ahead, going to tuesday's election which caused jimmy carter to call at 5:00 in the afternoon and give up to my father. ronald reagan, by the way, my father was in the shower not planning on winning the election while showering but that is how he found out that, in fact, he won the election. it can change. they can change overnight. >>neil: the debate changed, the sunday before, not the immediate sunday, but the sunday before that, the american people willing to fire an incumbent they had to make sure the other guy was up to the task. they saw in the debate maybe he was, the same pressure on mitt romney or will be on mitt romney. do you think he is up to that? >> absolutely. the debates are everything to mitt romney. people need to be assured he can be the president o
one of the points made, people love ronald reagan. right now they are not in love with mitt romney who needs to shore up his own support. things can change. with my father's campaign, it did not chart charging until the final weekend when we went from behind to searching ahead, going to tuesday's election which caused jimmy carter to call at 5:00 in the afternoon and give up to my father. ronald reagan, by the way, my father was in the shower not planning on winning the election while showering...
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. >> third world dictators behave like this if ronald reagan when the president? remember. maybe romney is taking a page out of that playbook. mike reagan is with us. varney and company, 920 eastern. ♪ ♪ lou: joining me now, the "a-team" great to have you with us. let me start with you. the president's speech today, he did not in conjunction with the state of israel say they are allied. he did not talk or mention once radical islam. or radical islamists, and he did not specifically call the attack against our consulates and the assassination of our ambassador a murder. he referred to it as a killing. what in the world? what is this administration thinking? >> i think this is a much tougher speech and he has ever delivered on this subject. i was really surprised. lou: this is the 2-week e anniversary of the murder of an american ambassador. >> is not want to talk about that. lou: i don't care what he wants to talk about. there are lots of things we don't want to talk about. does he not have the volition the talk? a eulogy for the ambassador. >> i read the speech. lou: i'
. >> third world dictators behave like this if ronald reagan when the president? remember. maybe romney is taking a page out of that playbook. mike reagan is with us. varney and company, 920 eastern. ♪ ♪ lou: joining me now, the "a-team" great to have you with us. let me start with you. the president's speech today, he did not in conjunction with the state of israel say they are allied. he did not talk or mention once radical islam. or radical islamists, and he did not...
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reagan a republican, and how, you know, it was always ronald reagan and at thi tip o'l they could get along, make progress. bill clinton would talk anybody, be working out a deal. this president doesn't have those relationships. now we see the situation on what's going on in banghazi. two dead, navy seals. an ambassador. we haven't had an ambassador killed in 30 years. another person is dead. all of these embassies, consulates, have been raided, flags ripped down and burned. we're finding this president wasn't engaged with arab leaders either. >> well, "the new york times" had a story just a couple days ago saying exactly that. and this is the difficulty at home. for some -- i mean, take the president's own party. harry reid, the democrat. the leader of the senate, the second most powerful democrat in washington. he goes down to the white house and to wake the president up he has to use his chief of staff to tell him, i'm disappointed in you, the president, in the oval office, that we didn't have a fallback plan for all the shenanigan insist 2012. 2012 -- shenanigans in 2011. reed is
reagan a republican, and how, you know, it was always ronald reagan and at thi tip o'l they could get along, make progress. bill clinton would talk anybody, be working out a deal. this president doesn't have those relationships. now we see the situation on what's going on in banghazi. two dead, navy seals. an ambassador. we haven't had an ambassador killed in 30 years. another person is dead. all of these embassies, consulates, have been raided, flags ripped down and burned. we're finding this...
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successful pattern to follow, ronald reagan's. on the other hand, you had the debt limit talks in 2011 where president obama in the middle of talks never, until this day, has gotten specific. we don't know if he offered to raise the medicare retirement age. we don't know how much he said he would cut medicare and enact entitlement reform. so he did the opposite. he went into a serious negotiation not as a candidate but as the president and never got specific. it's one of the reasons we never got a big debt limit deal. so i think mitt romney actually is following the reagan pattern. the question is who when it comes to real negotiation with congress will follow through and get it done. i think mitt romney would be stronger at that. the president, if he could have done it, would have done it. >> secretary reish -- >> let me -- with due respect, with due respect to mr. fleischer, the fact is when ronald reagan was running we didn't have the kind of budget deficit we have right now. it's very -- >> that's not the point. >> you cannot
successful pattern to follow, ronald reagan's. on the other hand, you had the debt limit talks in 2011 where president obama in the middle of talks never, until this day, has gotten specific. we don't know if he offered to raise the medicare retirement age. we don't know how much he said he would cut medicare and enact entitlement reform. so he did the opposite. he went into a serious negotiation not as a candidate but as the president and never got specific. it's one of the reasons we never...